Kacee begins this discussion by having the class define suffering to synthesize with the knowledge of the Vedanta Treatise and the book Good Citizens. Kacee cautions against thinking in black + white while developing your intellect. The conversation moves through depression, violence, and fear and how to reframe your attachments.
Kacee continues philosophy class in a deep discussion about the similarities between suffering and happiness.
This conversation begins with the parable "Is that so?" that leads to finding the present moment and being in a state of sweet detachment. By doing this, we can be ourselves and be our best.